Meyer

[JeffGentry]

Hello all
Have been going through Meyer a bit for the first time. And was wondering what people's thought's on his (Meyer's) interpretation of the fight and how it progress's were. IMHO think that he has a way of explaining thing's that i have not seen in alot of other Fechtbuchs. He seem's to be a very good teacher in the simplicity of how thing's are explained and built on in the text. Is just my opinion, this is probably right up Jake's alley or the people who attended his seminar.

[Jake_Norwood]

I agree absolutely. Meyer is one of the best technical writers of the entire fechtbuch world, if not the best. And the images are top-notch.

Now, as for the purpose of Meyer's book, and it's relation to the earlier German material, that's where I (and Mike Rassmussen, based on our recent conversations) strongly disagree with the general concensus (at least out at SFI). We both agree that it's a classroom manual, aimed at the classroom, but that these men in the classroom are training to "really fight," not primarily for some kind of scored combative sport. There's a load of in-text evidence that I've discovered, recently, in fact, that supports the train-to-fight-for-real approach to Meyer's text as well.

I also think that Meyer is one of the best ways in which to approach the earlier German material. Yes, there are a few differences, some of which are classroom-based and others are simple interpretation differences between, say, Ringeck and Meyer, but both are markedly "German post-Liechtenauer."

Jake

Jake

[JeffGentry]

Oh yea it appear's obvious(at least IMO) in the way he word's thing's that he is talking about real life and death fighting, I'm only on page 15 i think but the way he described going through a cut and telling you these are the gaurd's you move through whern you do this cut if it were not life and death why do you need to know that before the gaurd's are even described? some of the other gaurd's that he describe's such as the wrath gaurde i tried it in the yard i can see that being very mobile and on a hard swing(strike of wrath) it is very natural to move in to and a void right and strike to the nead could have some serious power from there, the post about shiatelhau breaking pflug that was on here is explain simply and totaly understandable in his explanation i saw that and it totaly explained the question asked on here and was right to the point on the answer. I like simplicity and i think he has it down.

[JeffGentry]

Boy as i get further into Meyer i like him more and more. His style is very aggressive but he give's alot of hint's of what to be aware of when you attack as to "if he doe's" this "you need to look for" this and "strike thus" which realy make's you think and help's you clarify the whole thing for yourself. we did a small amount with Gene on saturday between that and the reading alot of thing's are clearer to me now, thing's i was doing but didn't realy understand i'm going oh i can go from this to that and do it quickly effiecently.

Never realy understood the four opening's but i think i get it now i think evevryone should read Meyer, will try to "study" it once i am done with my read through.

[Jake_Norwood]

One of the things I love about Meyer is how he teaches you to think a move or two ahead with your own moves, like chess.

Jake