about meyer not moving
Because in that very technique he does not say so.
there is no and you strike or thrust in the persentation on the iron gate proper.
Of course you will do something from it but as a move it is not defined as a sigle time counter as the abzetsens are.
But it is by other masters, so you obviously could. Just like with Ringeks parries, etc. they could all be used as stand alone parries, or as counters.
Of course, any parry could be performed with no movement if done perfectly, but movement enhances them and creates margin for error. Most defenses are described without footwork in other manuals. The leaving out of the description I would not take for advisement to not use it.
Meyer clearly tells that the us german do not thrust any more,
And in the emerging age of foyning fence no less. Seems a different subject.
about parry
Whatever concept you put into it block or deflection.
I beleive that ringeck do not use that concept at all.
He clarly says the you should guard yourself from versetsen (Ie parrying) and only use masterhaw and absetsen.
yes they are deflecting the blow but conceptually there are attack in the attack.
The deflecting is a side effect and not the pricinpal purpose of the action.
I think we have an argument of semantics. The parry included in the counter attacks are not side effects, or one would counter attack to a seperate opening without the bind more easily, resulting in simultaneous kill. The parrys are definite necessities and more important than the counter.
If the attack were to fail, the parry would still leave you alive. If the attack is out of range, or you fail to attack, the parry still holds true, and it is still a parry, though ideally made one in the same with an attack.
Ringeck rarely describes a parry alone, as he said, there's no point in one, but he does come close. There are parries he describes while implying that you should counter from them, such as some of his absetzen. He often describes the defensive action, and then the attack or possible attacks to suffix it with.
Contrary to what you said, Ringeck uses a great deal of blocks and deflections, ideally with counters attached to them. Some of his defenses initially strike exclusively the sword, such as striking to his blade with a krumphau.
Another is the kron "What comes from him, the kron will catch".
Most other singular defenses are implied, and none is ever meant to be done alone, and ideally a counter can be simultaneous and fluid, but a parry is a parry.
