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Albion Authenticity ?

Postby William Savage » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:33 pm

I recently purchased some Christmass gifts for some two of my friends from Albion Swords. At the same time I purchased their Next Generation Agincourt longsword.

This is a huge purchase for someone on by budget.

I got the two gifts for my friends today, a breast plate and a plain bacinet from their moat sale. The thing is neither of them are wearable or could be used well for sparring. I dont mean they didnt come with padding i mean they are not shaped to properley fit a mans body.

Im going to get a forge soon and could probubly modify them so, oh well. But my sword isnt coming for 3 weeks and i need to know did i spend 650 bucks for a lemon???

Any information on what to expect would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby M Wallgren » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:35 pm

No You didn´t! One of the best you can get out there.

You have my envy!
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Re: Albion Authenticity ? only 1 criticism.

Postby Rod-Thornton » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:47 pm

I have to agree... I own a couple middle-of-the-road MRL's and just received my Albion Mercenary about two weeks ago.

Lightening fast, excellent workmanship and fit, great blade shape and finishing, and a nice, hot-peened crossguard (versus a sandwiched one as in MRL).

You seem to get what you pay for with their manufactured blades....I doubt you will be dissappointed with them.

My only complaint with Albion is that they have a two year backlog on scabbards..... with that sort of backlog, they should hire and train more help in the interest of customer satisfaction. (It's been said, "You ain't nothin' without a backlog" but that is a little excessive). To my mind, with the surge in interest, our own organization's growth and customer referrals, and the general interest in WMA, it would be money well-invested for them. Limiting themselves to one scabbard-maker is a little penny-wise, but dollar-foolish.

Great sword tho'....you should relax in knowing the $ was well -spent.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Shane Smith » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:15 pm

I have two Albions near to hand, a Sempach and a Crecy. Both are nicely executed and handle well although the fuller on the Sempach doesn't terminate cleanly(or centered) on one side of the blade. I bought it at a good price on the used market so I'm not complaining.The one I own is the only flawed Albion blade I 've ever seen(My crecy's blade is essentially flawless as is every other Albion I can recall handling and examining). Some Albion swords I own and have handled have minor asymetrical grinds on their crossguards that it takes a craftsmans eye to see(I'm a carpenter so I don't miss much). In all fairness all production sword makers' wares tend to have their own typical quirks. Deltin's have nice blades and pitted funiture from casting.Atrims tend to have mildly assymetrical blades based on the examples I have seen when you sight along the edges but near perfect furniture. Mrl's have creaky hilts and whippy blades on some models.If you do have any kind of problem , Mike at Albion will set it right in a hurry I'm sure. I think quite highly of several of Albions models after handling them a bit. I think they offer really good value as a fairly fast rule based on my own experiences with them.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby William Savage » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:08 pm

Thanks guys, so ill stop worrying about the sword i guess, but what about their other products?

The helmet I bout from them on their moat sale is lopsided, are moat sale products made by a different company or something?

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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Matthew_Anderson » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:12 am

I don't think Albion makes any of the armour items on their site, they are probably Indian made. Nevertheless, as others have pointed out, I have always had great customer satisfaction from them and I'm sure if you're not happy with anything you buy from them, they'll make it right.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Joachim Nilsson » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:27 pm

Im going to get a forge soon and could probubly modify them so, oh well. But my sword isnt coming for 3 weeks and i need to know did i spend 650 bucks for a lemon???


To qoute Albion's moat sale web page: "Helms and Armour
These items are sold as-is, sorry, no sizing or returns.
" Also, if it happened to be Mercenary's Tailor's armor you bought you should be aware that that's munitions grade armor. Exactly as it's stated on the web page.

I wouldn't worry about the sword though. I own two NextGen swords and I love them both. Top notch pieces.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Shane Smith » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:06 pm

Mercenary's Tailor does market their armour on Albions site but I don't think that the moat items are made by them.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby GaryGrzybek » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:30 pm

Trust me, you'll be very happy with the sword. I have 5 and they are all very sweet. Small flaws and lines that are less than perfect give the weapon character. I see this as a good thing since they do not look machine made but more hand crafted. This is something that can be observed in originals. By no means does it affect performance.

BTW, Some of this reflects what Shane wrote <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Joachim Nilsson » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:06 am

Mercenary's Tailor does market their armour on Albions site but I don't think that the moat items are made by them.


Either way neither the moat sale armor nor Mercenarys Tailor are made with any personal sizes in mind.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Bill Welch » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:42 am

You will love your Albion, and their customer service can not be beat.

As several of you know I had a problem with a Crecy, I am still not sure what was wrong with the blade, but Albion remade me a blade for a sword that they quit making. Hows that for customer service?!! <img src="/forum/images/icons/cool.gif" alt="" />

So with any piece from Albion I think you will be very pleased.
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Tyler Borror » Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:53 am

yes, they do make great products. i have a little question, i just recived the "14th century tompson model" vambrace, couter, rerebrace set. the problem is that i am 6'3 and extremly skilly. (wrists like twigs).so they are all a bit big. how would you suggest i make them fit correctly? they said the set i recived was the smallest they make. so its up to me. any suggestions?
thank you-tyler

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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Joachim Nilsson » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:25 pm

My question is: Can an already finished piece be changed at all?
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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Tyler Borror » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:21 pm

Apparently they can be. Allan from the Mercenary's Tailor contacted me about my problem. i feel it will be resolved soon. (good thing!)-tyler <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Albion Authenticity ?

Postby Joachim Nilsson » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:19 am

That sounds great. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
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