Master Ott's Wrestling

[Webmaster]

From the folks in ARMA Poland we have a new introduction to Master Ott's Wrestling:

http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/master-ott-wrestling.html

[Jeff Hansen]

Great stuff! <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> I've been hoping someone was working on this. I tried to do it myself, but translating archaic german without even knowing modern german was beyond me. <img src="/forum/images/icons/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Thanks guys, great work.

[Jeffrey Hull]

I like how Ott recommends for wrestling three general tactical axioms regarding timing and mode, depending whether foe is weaker (thus before &amp; quickness), stronger (after &amp; yielding), or equal (with &amp; balance).

Does anyone think this is also a generally helpful way to regard armed fighting as well, or not?

Thanks to Sylwester, Bart &amp; Monika!

[JeffGentry]

Hey Jeff

I like how Ott recommends for wrestling three general tactical axioms regarding timing and mode, depending whether foe is weaker (thus before &amp; quickness), stronger (after &amp; yielding), or equal (with &amp; balance).

Does anyone think this is also a generally helpful way to regard armed fighting as well, or not?

We have been doing more dagger and unarmed lately, and i do see how the unarmed principle's apply to the weapon stuff as far as, vor, nach, weak and hard, as well as movenment.

Jeff

[Jeffrey Hull]

Okay, cool.

How about this:

Do you think the key fulcrum to winning at *equal* and *with* usually is either of ones own hips ?

[JeffGentry]

Hey Jeff

Do you think the key fulcrum to winning at *equal* and *with* usually is either of ones own hips ?

Oh most definately, When you are attacking you need to be hip's in when defending pull your hip's out or down.

Even in ground fighting in order to gain control drop your hip's toward the ground and stay off your knee's and it transfer's your weight to your opponent there by limiting his ability to move.

Or when your caught in a cross body/side mount move your hip's away from the opponent and he has to scramble to control your movement.

It is very similar in standing try to throw someone who is six inche's away and then do it with your hip against them just a little lower than there's then have them lower there hip's, or get on your back on the ground and have someone lean there elbow's on your chest while on there knee's then stretch there feet back and put there hip's on the ground see the weight diffrence.

Jeff

[Jeffrey Hull]

I agree regarding the hip as primary. One could argue it always is so, whether in "equal/with" fight or otherwise.

I was just curious if someone advocated the thigh/shank instead, or even the shoulder.

Hope my simple question was not too simplistic. I just like to pose the basic ones sometimes, helps to keep one's wrestling thinking grounded (heh, heh, little pun there).

[JeffGentry]

Hey Jeff

I know what you mean sometime's we put the basic's on the back burner in our thinking and it is alway's good to get them to the front and reheat them occasionaly.

Jeff