Fiore translated

[Jay Vail]

I came across this website with a translation of all of Fiore, for those of you who are interested in the Italian style.

http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

[John_Clements]

Wow, that's really sweet. I see Rob's guys have been busy. Good stuff. Would love to see this doen with the other versions the same way. I wonder how accurate the translator thinks it is? Good resource.

JC

[Joachim Nilsson]

<img src="/forum/images/icons/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Wohoo, more poleaxe techniques! And halfswording! This is great! <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Hopefully the translator(s) have done a good job.

[Jared L. Cass]

Very nice!

My thanks goes out to the Knights of the Wild Rose. Well done guys! Thanks again.

Jared L. Cass, Wisconsin

[Jay Vail]

Wouldn't you agree that a translation adds a lot to the manual? Some things that were conjecture before are now clear to me.

What do you all think?

[Guest]

Mich says the translation is accurate, that an elderly Italain gentleman fluent in that dialect worked on it. This version has less text that the others, and so there is still more to learn (and interpret) from the Flos Duellatorum, but its the best attempt I've seen of this and a real boon.

JC

[Jay Vail]

It's good to know it can be relied upon. I had it out yesterday working through dagger techniques. I understand the four dagger masters better now and see more clearly how the techniques flow from the masters.

[Guest]

I thought that there were 9 Dagger MAsters?

Dai

[MurrayMoore]

Is this the same version of Fiore that Charron is translating, or is he doing a different one?

[Fabrice Cognot]

Bob Charron is translating the Getty version of Fiore's treatise. this one is the (lost) Pisani-Dossi.

Fab

[Guest]

Fantatsic and excellent!

The text gives our study group a better grasp and understanding of what Fiore was attempting to teach and present to the reader. <img src="/forum/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />

Todd

[Matt Easton]

Yes, this is the Pisani-Dossi version and the translation is much better than the version that has been floating around unofficially for years.
The complete prologue to Getty is translated and up on our website (linked below), and we are trying to decide what to do with the rest of the translation of Getty (which we finished quite some time ago) - I have quoted bits of it often on Swordforum. We may be self publishing the rest and sticking it out for sale cheaply, or we may put it online - we haven't decided.

As to the dagger masters - there are 9 Masters of techniques, and 4 Masters who represent required abilities/knowledge (disarming, dislocating and breaking arms, locks and binds, and throws/wrestling).

I will be publishing a long article about Fiore's 3 surviving books of Fior di Battaglia, and this will be published in the journal of the conference in Florence advertised here:

http://www.international-arms-and-armour-conferences.com/

You can order the journal from that site, which also contains articles by such famous names as David Edge and Chris Dobson.

Matt

[Guest]

Matt,

Of course, any of the text that you would like to share would be greatly appreciated :^) I would also certainly be glad to pay for a complete published translation, as I'm sure a lot of others would.

[GaryGrzybek]

Great!

Some juicy new stuff to play with. I've got the printer crankin away right now <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />

Thanks,

[Jay Vail]

As to the dagger masters - there are 9 Masters of techniques, and 4 Masters who represent required abilities/knowledge (disarming, dislocating and breaking arms, locks and binds, and throws/wrestling).

Yes. I stand corrected. I spoke/typed in haste.